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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:20:00 -
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Eve as envisioned by CCP had 3 distinct sectors high sec, low sec, and null sec.
high sec was the introduction to Eve, a place to learn the basics. Get the feel for combat, earn some isk, and move on to bigger an better adventures. Such as low sec where there was better loot to be found at the cost of higher risk.
For the truly adventurous they could move out to null and experience Eve at it fullest (live build and battle in player created empires) .
Unfortunately CCP erroneously made high sec a bit to comfy for those of us who love their space warm and squishy . They also neglected null sec to a certain extent and inadvertently created the high sec industrial block that we have now.
So at this point you have 2 major game mechanics created high sec and null sec . they both demand attention and ccp has to focus on both, thus low sec gets ignored and devolves into the anarchy that currently rules it.
So when you see people pushing one to play one style or another its stems from this basic flaw that effects eve.
High sec was never intended to become the center of eve.
The push to get one out of high sec and into null is the very core of eve .
With null and low sec comes the inevitable pvp mechanic , Highsec has become a way for people to avoid this intended aspect of eve (this was unintentional ) it was hoped that players would leave high sec, exploit low sec, engage in good fights, and carry on into null and build their empires pvp'ing all the way .
CCP and the player base underestimated the number of risk adverse players. When they all holed up in high sec it created a dilema for CCP and the players. CCP was left wondering and maintaining what to do with these people, and the player base was left wondering how the hell can i shoot them ?
and this is why you see the angst and the constant pushing to play one or the other . it could be argued( and it is constantly) that high sec is what broke eve . |
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:59:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: I disagree. I think the people that wanted null sec got it and when they got it they discovered it was boring as **** and or they had to kowtow down to some ******* of a corp leader and be at the persons beck and call all the time and that created a lot of angst. Face it...null and low sec are broke because the players broke it. To many arseholes play in null and low sec and because they can't get their rocks off in null and low sec any longer, they decide to move back into high sec to just be the griefers they are and have always been.
Oh it is very true that the players are to blame .
The players in high sec who hole up and have unintentionally forced CCP to change their vision of the game .
The players in low sec that made low sec into the wretch that is now.
The players in null sec have tried to make utopias but the mechanics are not there. the players could try harder but it always fails, ends up in civil war, or becomes overrun so yeah, it still comes down to the players (but they could use a lil more help from CCP) .
However lets not forget the players in high sec also effect the game, when a majority of them decide to hole up in high sec this creates a major shift in game play . One cannot expect no ramifications. (this very fact is pivotal as to why their is so much angst)
CCP is torn on the issue as well they introduced npc corp taxes to push people out, and into player corps. With the end result anticipated that more people would end up in null . Yet they introduce incursions to add more content into high sec.
A strong high sec makes for a weaker null and until this is resolved you will have issues. Many of the people in null are not hateful greifers they are the people trying to play the original vision of eve .
And the more that high sec is buffed (with players and mechanics) the more this vision will be dimmed.
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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:31:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: If CCP removed high sec they'd be shutting their game down in months. Face it, for all the crying the null sec players want to do about high sec, high sec players contribute just as much subs if not more than the low sec. High sec is CCP's bread and butter. If anything CCP should be shoring up its PvE game and trying to get more people involved in EVE. As it is now their new player churn rate is extremely high. New people start, find out that EVE is not as good as people make it out to be and the game lacks solid PvE and they leave.
Low sec and null sec is the niche portion of EVE game play and it will always be that way...dozens of MMO's with FFA pvp rules shows us that. Look at any of the biggest ffa pvp titles...oh wait...their aren't any!
Not implying CCP remove highsec in my opinion high sec is great you can putter around, blow crap up, engage in sanctioned pvp, gank people, play the market, and spam local with trash talk. its freaking great .
what im trying to illuminate is that high sec was never intended to be awesome .
The very root of players(who are anti highsec) ideology is formed by the fact that those who remain in highsec are playing a pervision of ccp's orginal vision of eve.
thats is why players are trying to get you to change your play style .
You dont have to agree with it , just understand that your vision and their vision is going to differ, and this creates the conflict that this thread is about .
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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:54:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: Why can't high sec be as awesome as low and null sec? It can be rewarding in a different way. There are many ways to reward players for their efforts.
High sec is detrimental to null sec via logistics .
with high sec providing perfect protection for the industrial base of eve and with high sec providing the majority of materials and in game items for eve null will never have the chance to become what ccp envisioned.
but alas with the game vision shifted maybe CCP can pull it off and make null and high sec equal but i truly do not think it can be done . as i see the two mutually exclusive to one another. |
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:37:00 -
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just wanted to echo that lot of people seem to forget or are ignorant to the fact of sec status ... this provides an excellent foundation to apply consequences to greifers and or those who want to punish high sec players. |
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